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	'''“My Seed Is Broken!” (Glitchless Logic)''' - Solutions to completing randomized runs of ''Ocarina of Time'' can sometimes be unintuitive. While your seed may appear to be unbeatable, this isn’t often the case. Thanks to the diligent efforts of the developers, OoTR’s logic is incredibly robust. Listed below are some common sources of confusion, grouped by location. If you don’t mind spoiling the rest of the playthrough, instructions to finding your next step will be listed [[#Knowing_the_Way_with_the_Spoiler_Log\|here]].		'''“My Seed Is Broken!” (Glitchless Logic)''' - Solutions to completing randomized runs of ''Ocarina of Time'' can sometimes be unintuitive. While your seed may appear to be unbeatable, this isn’t often the case. Thanks to the diligent efforts of the developers, OoTR’s logic is incredibly robust. Listed below are some common sources of confusion, grouped by location. If you don’t mind spoiling the rest of the playthrough, instructions to finding your next step will be listed [[#Knowing_the_Way_with_the_Spoiler_Log\|here]].

			If you were linked here for one of the other Ocarina of Time Randomizer projects, note first that not all of this page will be accurate to that project. As well, if you get stuck you should ask in that project's Discord to get the most accurate and up-to-date help as each one is different enough people more familiar with other projects will only be able guess at how to help you.

	If you follow these steps and still need help, you’re welcome to ask for support in the {{discord\|gameplay-and-tricks}} channel of the {{discord}}. Please provide the seed and setting string along with any important details about the issue. If it turns out there is indeed a logical flaw, kind members of our team will report issues from there.		If you follow these steps and still need help, you’re welcome to ask for support in the {{discord\|gameplay-and-tricks}} channel of the {{discord}}. Please provide the seed and setting string along with any important details about the issue. If it turns out there is indeed a logical flaw, kind members of our team will report issues from there.

	If you were linked here for one of the other Ocarina of Time Randomizer projects, note first that not all of this page will be accurate to that project. As well, if you get stuck you should ask in that project's Discord to get the most accurate and up-to-date help as each one is different enough people more familiar with other projects will only be able guess at how to help you.

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	If you follow these steps and still need help, you’re welcome to ask for support in the {{discord\|gameplay-and-tricks}} channel of the {{discord}}. Please provide the seed and setting string along with any important details about the issue. If it turns out there is indeed a logical flaw, kind members of our team will report issues from there.		If you follow these steps and still need help, you’re welcome to ask for support in the {{discord\|gameplay-and-tricks}} channel of the {{discord}}. Please provide the seed and setting string along with any important details about the issue. If it turns out there is indeed a logical flaw, kind members of our team will report issues from there.

			If you were linked here for one of the other Ocarina of Time Randomizer projects, note first that not all of this page will be accurate to that project. As well, if you get stuck you should ask in that project's Discord to get the most accurate and up-to-date help as each one is different enough people more familiar with other projects will only be able guess at how to help you.

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Flagrama: /* Death Mountain Trail */ DMT summit without hylian shield (in logic currenlty)

2023-11-15T16:15:29Z

Death Mountain Trail: DMT summit without hylian shield (in logic currenlty)

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Freestanding Piece of Heart above Dodongo's Cavern'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Freestanding Piece of Heart above Dodongo's Cavern'''</div>
	If you're a child and you don't have the Goron's Bracelet, you can still backflip onto the ledge from where the bomb flower is by angling it correctly and backflipping from outside the grab range. Using C-Up will help. If you're an adult, the bomb flower isn't there.		If you're a child and you don't have the Goron's Bracelet, you can still backflip onto the ledge from where the bomb flower is by angling it correctly and backflipping from outside the grab range. Using C-Up will help. If you're an adult, the bomb flower isn't there.

			<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Death Mountain Summit As Child Without Hylian Shield'''</div>
			If you're a child and you don't have the Hylian Shield, you can still make your way up to the summit of Death Mountain Trail. The falling rocks can be avoided by holding Z and walking backwards, or by using invincibility frames while rolling to prevent damage when they hit you.

	== Goron City ==		== Goron City ==

Flagrama: /* Haunted Wasteland */ clarify bombchu salesman

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Haunted Wasteland: clarify bombchu salesman

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Bombchu Salesman'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Bombchu Salesman'''</div>
	As ~~child or~~ adult, jump off the edge and use a jump-slash ~~with a stick or sword~~ to land on the carpet.		As an adult, jump off the edge and use a jump-slash to land on the carpet. If the trick "Reverse Haunted Wasteland" or "Wasteland Crossing" is activated you may also have to do this as child. Either a Deku Stick or sword will work.

	== Inside the Deku Tree ==		== Inside the Deku Tree ==

Flagrama: /* Misunderstood Vanilla Mechanics */ Burning Village/Nocturne of Shadow Cutscene - clarify being able to enter from any entrance to start the CS is a rando change

2023-04-23T01:56:45Z

Misunderstood Vanilla Mechanics: Burning Village/Nocturne of Shadow Cutscene - clarify being able to enter from any entrance to start the CS is a rando change

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Burning Village/Nocturne of Shadow Cutscene'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Burning Village/Nocturne of Shadow Cutscene'''</div>
	Link must have the <span style="color: green">Forest</span>, <span style="color: crimson">Fire</span>, and <span style="color: blue">Water</span> Medallions and then enter Kakariko Village as Adult from any entrance.		Link must have the <span style="color: green">Forest</span>, <span style="color: crimson">Fire</span>, and <span style="color: blue">Water</span> Medallions and then enter Kakariko Village as Adult. In vanilla Ocarina of Time you must enter from Hyrule Field, but in the randomizer it has been changed to entering from any entrance.

	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Castle Town Shooting Gallery'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Castle Town Shooting Gallery'''</div>

Blackwall: /* Inside Ganon’s Castle */

2023-03-29T21:45:27Z

Inside Ganon’s Castle

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial First Chest without Hookshot and Fire Arrows'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial First Chest without Hookshot and Fire Arrows'''</div>
	Playing the Song of Time will spawn Song of Time blocks leading to the first chest.		Playing the Song of Time will spawn Song of Time blocks leading to the first chest. Hover boots will also work.

	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial (Second Chest or Trial Completion) without Fire Arrows'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial (Second Chest or Trial Completion) without Fire Arrows'''</div>

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Fortress Rooftop Chest without Longshot'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Fortress Rooftop Chest without Longshot'''</div>
	The chest can be reached from the top with the Hover Boots or by spawning a scarecrow and using the Hookshot. You'll have to stand close to the edge of the top level for the Hookshot to reach. Note that you won't see the Hookshot's red dot on the scarecrow.		The chest can be reached from the top with the Hover Boots or by spawning a scarecrow and using the Hookshot. You'll have to stand close to the edge of the top level for the Hookshot to reach. Note that you won't see the Hookshot's red dot on the scarecrow.

			== Haunted Wasteland ==

			<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Bombchu Salesman'''</div>
			As child or adult, jump off the edge and use a jump-slash with a stick or sword to land on the carpet.

	== Inside the Deku Tree ==		== Inside the Deku Tree ==

ETR BTF: /* Vanilla Help */ updated goron pot for rupeesanity

2022-12-29T22:49:44Z

Vanilla Help: updated goron pot for rupeesanity

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Spinning Pottery'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Spinning Pottery'''</div>
	The spinning Goron Pot is activated by lighting the torches surrounding it. This can be accomplished by lighting sticks from Darunia's chamber OR by casting Din's Fire.		The spinning Goron Pot is activated by lighting the torches surrounding it. This can be accomplished by lighting sticks from Darunia's chamber OR by casting Din's Fire.
	The Spinning Pot has 3 faces - Happy, Neutral, and Mad. ~~Only the~~ Happy face ~~gives~~ a randomized reward~~; Neutral~~ give 3 ~~bomb refills and Mad gives 3 green rupees~~.		The Spinning Pot has 3 faces - Happy, Neutral, and Mad. The Happy face will always give a randomized reward. If freestanding Rupees & hearts are also shuffled, then each face will give 3 randomized rewards.

	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Scarecrow’s Song'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Scarecrow’s Song'''</div>

ETR BTF: /* Misunderstood Vanilla Mechanics */ delete false info and add info that's actually true and useful

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Misunderstood Vanilla Mechanics: delete false info and add info that's actually true and useful

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Zelda Light Arrow Cutscene'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Zelda Light Arrow Cutscene'''</div>
	Enter the Temple of Time as adult with the Shadow and Spirit medallions to receive this item check. ~~From~~ the ~~Master Sword pedestal~~, ~~Link must approach the exit~~.		Enter the Temple of Time as adult with the Shadow and Spirit medallions to receive this item check. Make sure you don't save and reset after entering the Temple of Time and before obtaining the item, [https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Common_Softlocks_And_Crashes or you could get locked out of it entirely].

	= Vanilla Mechanics Changed by Randomizer =		= Vanilla Mechanics Changed by Randomizer =

ETR BTF: /* Inside Ganon’s Castle */ moved things around

2022-09-06T12:14:52Z

Inside Ganon’s Castle: moved things around

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	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Water Trial Blue Fire'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Water Trial Blue Fire'''</div>
	With your bridge requirement set to Open, Blue Fire can be brought from the Water Trial to thaw King Zora or, if you have shopsanity active, to open the Zora Shop as adult if inaccessible as child.		With your bridge requirement set to Open, Blue Fire can be brought from the Water Trial to thaw King Zora or, if you have shopsanity active, to open the Zora Shop as adult if inaccessible as child.

			<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial First Chest without Hookshot and Fire Arrows'''</div>
			Playing the Song of Time will spawn Song of Time blocks leading to the first chest.

	<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial (Second Chest or Trial Completion) without Fire Arrows'''</div>		<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial (Second Chest or Trial Completion) without Fire Arrows'''</div>
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	With Hover Boots, Longshot the torch to the right as you enter. From there, Link can reach the Like-Like with the Longshot. Once to the middle platform, equip the Hover Boots and roll across the gap to the platform where the chest spawns. From here open the chest and finish the trial.<br/>		With Hover Boots, Longshot the torch to the right as you enter. From there, Link can reach the Like-Like with the Longshot. Once to the middle platform, equip the Hover Boots and roll across the gap to the platform where the chest spawns. From here open the chest and finish the trial.<br/>
	With Din's Fire as a fire source, do the same thing as with Hover Boots, but instead of going to the Like-Like immediately, cast Din's Fire first. This will spawn the glass platform to the chest platform so Link can jump across.		With Din's Fire as a fire source, do the same thing as with Hover Boots, but instead of going to the Like-Like immediately, cast Din's Fire first. This will spawn the glass platform to the chest platform so Link can jump across.

	~~<div style="font-size:larger;">'''Shadow Trial First Chest without Hookshot and Fire Arrows'''</div>~~
	~~Playing the Song of Time will spawn Song of Time blocks leading to the first chest.~~

	== MQ Inside Ganon's Castle ==		== MQ Inside Ganon's Castle ==