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DuskTheUmbreon: /* Foolish Choice */ UN-external link

2025-01-20T03:14:27Z

Foolish Choice: UN-external link

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	Foolish Choice Hints (also commonly called Barren Hints) point towards areas that contain no [[Major Items]]. This means that you can ignore this area when looking for progression in the seed. To increase the amount of Foolish Areas per seed, there are three exceptions where a Major Item can show up in a Foolish Areas:		Foolish Choice Hints (also commonly called Barren Hints) point towards areas that contain no [[Major Items]]. This means that you can ignore this area when looking for progression in the seed. To increase the amount of Foolish Areas per seed, there are three exceptions where a Major Item can show up in a Foolish Areas:

	# The Major Item isn't shuffled (For example Ocarina, or Ganon's Boss Key if it is set to be on [~~https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=~~Glossary#LACS LACS]), or not considered in logic (Bombchus).		# The Major Item isn't shuffled (For example Ocarina, or Ganon's Boss Key if it is set to be on [[Glossary#LACS\|LACS]]), or not considered in logic (Bombchus).
	# The item in question doesn't unlock any Location. This list is mostly predetermined and consists of Double Defense, Ice Arrows and Biggoron Sword. Nayrus Love is also in this list damage is not set to Quadruple Damage or OHKO, Scrub Shuffle is disabled, and [[Entrance Randomizer\| ER]] is disabled or set to Dungeons Only. Stone of Agony is also in this list if it isn't used for hints and the trick to open hidden grottos without it is enabled. Serenade of Water and Prelude of Light are also in this list unless Full Indoors or Overworld ER is enabled.		# The item in question doesn't unlock any Location. This list is mostly predetermined and consists of Double Defense, Ice Arrows and Biggoron Sword. Nayrus Love is also in this list damage is not set to Quadruple Damage or OHKO, Scrub Shuffle is disabled, and [[Entrance Randomizer\| ER]] is disabled or set to Dungeons Only. Stone of Agony is also in this list if it isn't used for hints and the trick to open hidden grottos without it is enabled. Serenade of Water and Prelude of Light are also in this list unless Full Indoors or Overworld ER is enabled.
	# An exact duplicate of the item is on the WotH AND getting that duplicate would make the item in the Foolish Area obsolete. For Weekly/Tourney standards this can only be Bows, Bombs, "Normal" Bottles, Slingshots and Magic. Depending on other settings this can also include Bombchus, Ocarina, or any non-progressive item if the Item Pool is set to Plentiful.		# An exact duplicate of the item is on the WotH AND getting that duplicate would make the item in the Foolish Area obsolete. For Weekly/Tourney standards this can only be Bows, Bombs, "Normal" Bottles, Slingshots and Magic. Depending on other settings this can also include Bombchus, Ocarina, or any non-progressive item if the Item Pool is set to Plentiful.

KLO1313: Updated the definition of Path of the Hero

2025-01-08T18:30:16Z

Updated the definition of Path of the Hero

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	* A goal for any enabled trials.		* A goal for any enabled trials.
	* Path of Gold goal for Triforce Pieces in Triforce Hunt.		* Path of Gold goal for Triforce Pieces in Triforce Hunt.
	* "Path of the ~~hero~~", equivalent to way of the hero. ~~Only active with open bridge and Ganon's Castle Boss Key removed/vanilla and zero trials~~.		* "Path of the Hero", equivalent to way of the hero. This goal is for any item required to complete the game while not being required for the other goals.


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	# The Major Item isn't shuffled (For example Ocarina, or Ganon's Boss Key if it is set to be on [https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Glossary#LACS LACS]), or not considered in logic (Bombchus).		# The Major Item isn't shuffled (For example Ocarina, or Ganon's Boss Key if it is set to be on [https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Glossary#LACS LACS]), or not considered in logic (Bombchus).
	# The item in question doesn't unlock any Location. This list is mostly predetermined and consists of Double Defense, Ice Arrows and Biggoron Sword. Nayrus Love is also in this list damage is not set to Quadruple Damage or OHKO, Scrub Shuffle is disabled, and [[~~Entrance_Randomizer~~ \| ER]] is disabled or set to Dungeons Only. Stone of Agony is also in this list if it isn't used for hints and the trick to open hidden grottos without it is enabled. Serenade of Water and Prelude of Light are also in this list unless Full Indoors or Overworld ER is enabled.		# The item in question doesn't unlock any Location. This list is mostly predetermined and consists of Double Defense, Ice Arrows and Biggoron Sword. Nayrus Love is also in this list damage is not set to Quadruple Damage or OHKO, Scrub Shuffle is disabled, and [[Entrance Randomizer\| ER]] is disabled or set to Dungeons Only. Stone of Agony is also in this list if it isn't used for hints and the trick to open hidden grottos without it is enabled. Serenade of Water and Prelude of Light are also in this list unless Full Indoors or Overworld ER is enabled.
	# An exact duplicate of the item is on the WotH AND getting that duplicate would make the item in the Foolish Area obsolete. For Weekly/Tourney standards this can only be Bows, Bombs, "Normal" Bottles, Slingshots and Magic. Depending on other settings this can also include Bombchus, Ocarina, or any non-progressive item if the Item Pool is set to Plentiful.		# An exact duplicate of the item is on the WotH AND getting that duplicate would make the item in the Foolish Area obsolete. For Weekly/Tourney standards this can only be Bows, Bombs, "Normal" Bottles, Slingshots and Magic. Depending on other settings this can also include Bombchus, Ocarina, or any non-progressive item if the Item Pool is set to Plentiful.

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	==== DDR ====		==== DDR ====
	This distribution covers the hint distribution used for weekly races of the [[~~Dungeon_Door_Requirement~~\|DDR ruleset]]. The distribution itself is:		This distribution covers the hint distribution used for weekly races of the [[Dungeon Door Requirement\|DDR ruleset]]. The distribution itself is:

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	=== Miscellaneous Hint Distributions===		=== Miscellaneous Hint Distributions===

	[[~~Bingo_hints~~\|Bingo Hints]]		[[Bingo hints\|Bingo Hints]]

	[[#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]]		[[Hints#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]]

	[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw3.json Multiworld Tournament Hints]		[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw3.json Multiworld Tournament Hints]

Fenhl: /* Hint Regions */ added Thieves' Hideout

2023-11-17T17:52:51Z

Hint Regions: added Thieves' Hideout

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	\| Gerudo's Fortress \|\| Yellow		\| Gerudo's Fortress \|\| Yellow
			\|-
			\| the Thieves' Hideout \|\| Yellow
	\|-		\|-
	\| the Gerudo Training Ground \|\| Yellow		\| the Gerudo Training Ground \|\| Yellow

Fenhl: /* Miscellaneous Hint Distributions */ updated multiworld tournament hints link and text

2023-06-17T01:50:30Z

Miscellaneous Hint Distributions: updated multiworld tournament hints link and text

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	[[#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]]		[[#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]]

	[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/~~mw2~~.json Multiworld Hints]		[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw3.json Multiworld Tournament Hints]

	=== Copies of WotH hints ===		=== Copies of WotH hints ===

Cuphat: /* Hint Regions */ Add table displaying Hint Regions and their corresponding colors for reference of the Regional option for shuffling dungeon items.

2022-08-20T20:08:46Z

Hint Regions: Add table displaying Hint Regions and their corresponding colors for reference of the Regional option for shuffling dungeon items.

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	* For similar reasons, both ends of the Kakariko Potion Shop must be to the same hint region when hints are on.		* For similar reasons, both ends of the Kakariko Potion Shop must be to the same hint region when hints are on.
	* However, Windmill/Dampe's Grave are allowed to go between different hint regions. The Windmill Piece of Heart and Song of Storms check are considered part of the hint region connected to the Windmill exit, while Dampe's items are considered part of the hint region connected to the entrance to Dampe's grave.		* However, Windmill/Dampe's Grave are allowed to go between different hint regions. The Windmill Piece of Heart and Song of Storms check are considered part of the hint region connected to the Windmill exit, while Dampe's items are considered part of the hint region connected to the entrance to Dampe's grave.


			The Regional option for shuffling dungeon items and keys makes use of hint regions to determine where items can be placed, allowing the item to be placed in any region that shares a color with the dungeon that it originates from. Below is a table of the hint regions and their corresponding color:
			{\| class="wikitable"
			\|-
			! Hint Region !! Color
			\|-
			\| Link's Pocket \|\| White
			\|-
			\| Hyrule Field \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| Lon Lon Ranch \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| the Market \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| the Temple of Time \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| the Castle Grounds \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| Hyrule Castle \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| outside Ganon's Castle \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| inside Ganon's Castle \|\| Light Blue
			\|-
			\| Kokiri Forest \|\| Green
			\|-
			\| the Deku Tree \|\| Green
			\|-
			\| the Lost Woods \|\| Green
			\|-
			\| the Sacred Forest Meadow \|\| Green
			\|-
			\| the Forest Temple \|\| Green
			\|-
			\| the Death Mountain Trail \|\| Red
			\|-
			\| Dodongo's Cavern \|\| Red
			\|-
			\| Goron City \|\| Red
			\|-
			\| the Death Mountain Crater \|\| Red
			\|-
			\| the Fire Temple \|\| Red
			\|-
			\| Zora's River \|\| Blue
			\|-
			\| Zora's Domain \|\| Blue
			\|-
			\| Zora's Fountain \|\| Blue
			\|-
			\| Jabu Jabu's Belly \|\| Blue
			\|-
			\| the Ice Cavern \|\| Blue
			\|-
			\| Lake Hylia \|\| Blue
			\|-
			\| the Water Temple \|\| Blue
			\|-
			\| Kakariko Village \|\| Pink
			\|-
			\| the Bottom of the Well \|\| Pink
			\|-
			\| the Graveyard \|\| Pink
			\|-
			\| the Shadow Temple \|\| Pink
			\|-
			\| Gerudo Valley \|\| Yellow
			\|-
			\| Gerudo's Fortress \|\| Yellow
			\|-
			\| the Gerudo Training Ground \|\| Yellow
			\|-
			\| the Haunted Wasteland \|\| Yellow
			\|-
			\| the Desert Colossus \|\| Yellow
			\|-
			\| the Spirit Temple \|\| Yellow
			\|}

ETR BTF: /* DDR */ fixed some wrong info I introduced in my previous edit

2022-03-07T14:50:24Z

DDR: fixed some wrong info I introduced in my previous edit

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	\| Always \|\| 0 \|\| 2		\| Always \|\| 0 \|\| 2
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	\| ~~WOTH~~ \|\| 2 \|\| 2		\| WotH \|\| 2 \|\| 2
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~Foolish~~ \|\| 3 \|\| 2		\| Barren \|\| 3 \|\| 2
	\|-		\|-
	\| Named-item \|\| 3 \|\| 2		\| Named-item \|\| 3 \|\| 2
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	The list of items used for the Named-item hints is: Hover Boots, Hookshot, Din's Fire, Bomb Bag, Boomerang, Bow, Megaton Hammer, Iron Boots, Magic Meter, Mirror Shield, Fire Arrows, or Strength Upgrade. This selection takes place after the WotH hints are chosen, and so the later takes precedent for overlap purposes. The Named-item hints are also set as 'vague', and so they do not indicate the specific item in the hinted area.		The list of items used for the Named-item hints is: Hover Boots, Hookshot, Din's Fire, Bomb Bag, Boomerang, Bow, Megaton Hammer, Iron Boots, Magic Meter, Mirror Shield, Fire Arrows, or Strength Upgrade. This selection takes place after the WotH hints are chosen, and so the later takes precedent for overlap purposes. The Named-item hints are also set as 'vague', and so they do not indicate the specific item in the hinted area.

	In addition, Zelda's Lullaby, Ruto's Letter, Zora Tunic, Goron Tunic~~, Bow, Bomb Bag, and Magic Meter~~ are prevented from appearing as Way of the Hero hints; they can still be logically required to complete the seed, but the Way of the Hero hints will not directly indicate these items.		In addition, Zelda's Lullaby, Ruto's Letter, Zora Tunic, and Goron Tunic are prevented from appearing as Way of the Hero or sometimes hints; they can still be logically required to complete the seed, but the Way of the Hero hints will not directly indicate these items. Similarly, regions containing a Bow, Bomb Bag, or Magic Meter cannot be hinted Barren.

	The Sometimes Hints are used as filler hints. This means that once all other hint types above have been placed, it'll start placing Sometimes hints on the remaining Gossip Stones.		The Sometimes Hints are used as filler hints. This means that once all other hint types above have been placed, it'll start placing Sometimes hints on the remaining Gossip Stones.

ETR BTF: /* Miscellaneous Hint Distributions */ fix link

2022-03-07T14:37:14Z

Miscellaneous Hint Distributions: fix link

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	[[Bingo_hints\|Bingo Hints]]		[[Bingo_hints\|Bingo Hints]]

	[~~https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Hints~~#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]		[[#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]]

	[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw2.json Multiworld Hints]		[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw2.json Multiworld Hints]

ETR BTF: /* Miscellaneous Hint Distributions */ fix styling

2022-03-07T14:36:26Z

Miscellaneous Hint Distributions: fix styling

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	[[Bingo_hints\|Bingo Hints]]		[[Bingo_hints\|Bingo Hints]]

	[[https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Hints#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]]		[https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Hints#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]

	[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw2.json Multiworld Hints]		[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw2.json Multiworld Hints]


	=== Copies of WotH hints ===		=== Copies of WotH hints ===

ETR BTF: /* DDR */ redundancy

2022-03-07T14:36:00Z

DDR: redundancy

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	==== DDR ====		==== DDR ====
	This distribution covers the hint distribution used for weekly races of the ~~DDR ruleset~~ [[Dungeon_Door_Requirement\|DDR ruleset]]. The distribution itself is:		This distribution covers the hint distribution used for weekly races of the [[Dungeon_Door_Requirement\|DDR ruleset]]. The distribution itself is:

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"

ETR BTF: /* Hint Distributions */ updated hint distro info to be current

2022-03-07T14:35:28Z

Hint Distributions: updated hint distro info to be current

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	=== Exact Distributions ===		=== Exact Distributions ===
	Rather than use weights to randomly choose how many hints of a given type should be chosen, these distributions instead specify exactly how many should exist. For example, you can specify that there should be exactly 4 Way of the Hero (or Path of Gold if Triforce Hunt is enabled) type hints, rather than simply giving them a weight. This allows for structuring the hints so that they are the same every time, particularly useful when a lot of players will be using the same settings for a long time, such as the case with weeklies or tournaments, which is where these types of hints originated.		Rather than use weights to randomly choose how many hints of a given type should be chosen, these distributions instead specify exactly how many should exist. For example, you can specify that there should be exactly 4 Way of the Hero (or Path of Gold if Triforce Hunt is enabled) type hints, rather than simply giving them a weight. This allows for structuring the hints so that they are the same every time, particularly useful when a lot of players will be using the same settings for a long time, such as the case with weeklies or tournaments, which is where these types of hints originated.

	An important note: if not enough hints of a certain type can be generated, it will just move on to the next type. Additionally, Entrance, Trials, and Always type hints are still dependent on settings, and as such you will often see their amounts as 0. This can be misleading as these hint types will still be generated, but their amounts will vary based on settings.		An important note: if not enough hints of a certain type can be generated, it will just move on to the next type. Additionally, Entrance, Trials, and Always type hints are still dependent on settings, and as such you will often see their amounts as 0. This can be misleading as these hint types will still be generated, but their amounts will vary based on settings.

	==== Scrubs ====		==== Scrubs ====
	The Scrubs Distribution is a continuation of the original Tournament Distribution as was in use from Season 1 to Season 3. This distribution was renamed and is still in use by the Scrub Community and others.		The Scrubs Distribution is a continuation of the original Tournament Distribution as was in use from Season 1 to Season 3. This distribution was renamed and is still in use by the Scrub Community and others.

	The description from the Hint Distribution file reads: "Tournament hints used for Scrubs Races. Duplicates of each hint, Skull Mask is an always hint, 5 WotH, 3 Foolish, 8 sometimes. Can also be used to simulate S3 Tournament hints."		The description from the Hint Distribution file reads: "Tournament hints used for Scrubs Races. Duplicates of each hint, Skull Mask is an always hint, 5 WotH, 3 Foolish, 8 sometimes. Can also be used to simulate S3 Tournament hints."
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	==== Tournament ====		==== Tournament ====
	This distribution covers the current Ocarina of Time Randomizer Tournament's choice of hint distribution as it changes season to season. For Season 4, a new feature was added which allows the removal of certain groups of hint stones, forcing them to be Junk type hints. This allows for better routing of hints, disabling certain locations of hints, or in the case of Season 4 emulating earlier versions of the randomizer where the hints inside the generic grottos were all the same.		This distribution covers the current Ocarina of Time Randomizer Tournament's choice of hint distribution as it changes season to season. The description from the Hint Distribution file reads: "Hint Distribution for the S5 Tournament. 5 Goal Hints, 3 Barren Hints, 5 Sometimes hints, 7 Always hints (including skull mask)."

	Therefore this distribution has the unique sub-category of disabled locations, listed thus: HC (Storms Grotto), HF (Cow Grotto), HF (Near Market Grotto), HF (Southeast Grotto), HF (Open Grotto), Kak (Open Grotto), ZR (Open Grotto), KF (Storms Grotto), LW (Near Shortcuts Grotto), DMT (Storms Grotto), DMC (Upper Grotto).

	The description from the Hint Distribution file reads: "Tournament ~~hints used for OoTR Season 4~~. ~~Gossip stones in grottos are disabled. 4 WotH~~, 2 Barren, ~~remainder filled with~~ Sometimes. Always~~, WotH, and Barren~~ hints ~~duplicated~~."

	And lastly the distribution itself is:		And lastly the distribution itself is:
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	\| Always \|\| 0 \|\| 2		\| Always \|\| 0 \|\| 2
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~WOTH~~ \|\| 4 \|\| 2		\| Goal \|\| 5 \|\| 2
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~Foolish~~ \|\| 2 \|\| 2		\| Barren \|\| 3 \|\| 2
	\|-		\|-
	\| Entrance \|\| 4 \|\| 1		\| Entrance \|\| 4 \|\| 2
	\|-		\|-
	\| Sometimes \|\| 0 \|\| 1		\| Sometimes \|\| 0 \|\| 2
	\|-		\|-
	\| Random \|\| 0 \|\| 1		\| Random \|\| 0 \|\| 2
	\|}		\|}
	This distribution ~~is pretty unique because rather than working with all 40 stones, 11 are removed from consideration, giving~~ a ~~final pool of 29. Also this uses another new~~ feature which allows for certain items to be removed from consideration from a specified hint type. On this distribution, Zelda's Lullaby cannot be ~~hinted as Way of the Hero~~.		This distribution uses a feature which allows for certain items to be removed from consideration from a specified hint type. On this distribution, Zelda's Lullaby cannot be a Goal hint.

	==== DDR ====		==== DDR ====
	This distribution covers the hint distribution used for ~~Season 1~~ of the DDR ruleset [[Dungeon_Door_Requirement\|DDR ruleset]] ~~Tournament~~. The distribution itself is:		This distribution covers the hint distribution used for weekly races of the DDR ruleset [[Dungeon_Door_Requirement\|DDR ruleset]]. The distribution itself is:

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	The list of items used for the Named-item hints is: Hover Boots, Hookshot, Din's Fire, Bomb Bag, Boomerang, Bow, Megaton Hammer, Iron Boots, Magic Meter, Mirror Shield, Fire Arrows, or Strength Upgrade. This selection takes place after the WotH hints are chosen, and so the later takes precedent for overlap purposes. The Named-item hints are also set as 'vague', and so they do not indicate the specific item in the hinted area.		The list of items used for the Named-item hints is: Hover Boots, Hookshot, Din's Fire, Bomb Bag, Boomerang, Bow, Megaton Hammer, Iron Boots, Magic Meter, Mirror Shield, Fire Arrows, or Strength Upgrade. This selection takes place after the WotH hints are chosen, and so the later takes precedent for overlap purposes. The Named-item hints are also set as 'vague', and so they do not indicate the specific item in the hinted area.

	In addition, Zelda's Lullaby, Ruto's Letter, Zora Tunic, ~~and~~ Goron Tunic are prevented from appearing as Way of the Hero hints; they can still be logically required to complete the seed, but the Way of the Hero hints will not directly indicate these items.		In addition, Zelda's Lullaby, Ruto's Letter, Zora Tunic, Goron Tunic, Bow, Bomb Bag, and Magic Meter are prevented from appearing as Way of the Hero hints; they can still be logically required to complete the seed, but the Way of the Hero hints will not directly indicate these items.

	The Sometimes Hints are used as filler hints. This means that once all other hint types above have been placed, it'll start placing Sometimes hints on the remaining Gossip Stones.		The Sometimes Hints are used as filler hints. This means that once all other hint types above have been placed, it'll start placing Sometimes hints on the remaining Gossip Stones.
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	[[Bingo_hints\|Bingo Hints]]		[[Bingo_hints\|Bingo Hints]]

	[https://~~github~~.com/~~TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/~~Hints~~/league.json~~ League ~~Hints~~]		[[https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Hints#Tournament\|League currently uses the Tournament hint distribution]]

	[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw2.json Multiworld Hints]		[https://github.com/TestRunnerSRL/OoT-Randomizer/blob/Dev/data/Hints/mw2.json Multiworld Hints]